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>> life from maushg's news headquarters, i am harris falkner. 14 month old angel babcock was found in a field some distance from what was left of her family's mobile home in indiana. grandfather telling reporters she suffered massive head injuries she was taken off of life support a few hours ago. her mother, father, brother and two month old sister were killed. russian president putin has claimed victory.
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he was president in 2000 and 2008 before moving in the prime minister's office due to term limits. a major protest is planned for tomorrow. i am harris falkner. now back to the huckabee special. >> welcome back to forum 3 on jobs. mitt romney will face reaction from three ohioans affected seriously from the economic collapse. michael mcearly, kevin mccain and devon largin. they live where the friendliest people on earth live. i love wilmington. what a nice nice community. clean, hole some town. it's been a delight to be here. mike, you live in this community i am going to let you have the first question for governor romney. >> governor romney. thank you for being here. >> thank you.
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>> unfortunately the other panel member dave and i have something in common. i lost my son in iraq in 2003. and i have a lot of family members that also served. you say you won't cut benefits for any of those heros returning. will you increase them and if so, how? >> michael, first let me express my respect and admiration for you and your family and for the sacrifice of your son. it is something one can image but not really feel like i know your family feels it. and i appreciate that sacrifice. >> thank you. >> no greater sacrifice for no greater country. thank you, we have a debt of gratitude for those who serve this country. for those who come back wounded
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in particular we have an obligation to repair their lives and allow them to have a bright and prosperous tomorrow. as a result as i look at places where we are going to have to cut back, and a lot of places we have to cut back, one of the places i am not willing to cut back is our military budget. i do not want to see us reduce our number of ships and aircraft and active duty personnel. i don't want to see us reduce our commitment for those who care. our wounded warriors need to have a commitment from the commander-in-chief that they will be cared for. i can't image that if this issue ever put in the ballot by itself that any answer other than the one i described would be selected by the american people. the people of this country understand the debt of gratitude they have and are surely willing as i am to care for those who serve this country. i will do so if i am president of the united states. >> thank you. >> is the sta student from ohio
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is with us. >> first off it's a pleasure to speak to you. i want to switch gears to business a little bit. you say you are going to lower the marginal rate how do you do that and still manage to balance the budget. >> that's the rub always. the answer is by lowering marginal rates across the board we will have two things we also do. one is to limit the reductions and exemptions for people at the high end of the income spectrum so we maintain progress civet in the code and we are keeping the revenue coming in if by getting rid of some of the exemptions or deductions -- not getting rid of but limiting them. we will get a growth effect by lowering the amount of rate particularly for small businesses you allow them to hire more people at higher wages that creates growth. the combination of those two make sure we add to the deficit. we already have a deficit so we have to go to part 3 which is
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cut spending. i laid out a series of steps i would make to get america a finally balanced budget. it is unethical and uneconomic and i am moral for my generation to pass on to you and your generation obligations we have not met knowing you will pay interest and principal for years upon years. we can't do it i won't do it and i will stop it if i am president of the united states. >> tammy mckay your question. >> thank you for being here. welcome to wilmington ohio. it dovetails on the back of devons. you spoke about more jobs less debt and a smaller government. how do you propose to do that with a divided government? >> the best thing i can do for jobs is make america the most attractive place in the world for investors entrepreneurs and job creators. when you have the head of coca-cola say as he did the other day the business environment in china is friendlier than the business
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environment here you know we have problems. from regulations to energy policy, the tax policy, i am going to get america more attractive for jobs. number two shrinking the government. we are going to eliminate programs send a lot of programs back to state and the private sector to run more efficiently with less fraud and abuse. number 3 i talk about getting ourselves out of the debt and deficits we have, we have to have a president willing to tackle the big issues. the national balance sheet is medicare and social security. not for current people but for devon, he doesn't know what the deal is as he is getting into the work force. where will medicare be where will social security be for him? the changes i would make is i would say if your higher income you are going to have less benefits if you are lower income. we are going to cure the depend dense on those.
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>> hate to cut you off. thank you so much for being here. thank you to our panel of three ohioans. we will see them again when they give us final thoughts. also join us again for our next xanl who is fo-- panel former sr rick santorum will be joined by our panel. forum jobs continue. stay with us. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your ruy nose. [ deep breath ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! align can help. only align has bifantis, a pantented probiotic that naturally helps maintain your digestive balance. ♪ ooh baby, (what) can i do for you today? ♪ try align today.
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>> senator, welcome. you have released at least in the framework basis a plan describing your tax policy. have you considered the size of the tax cut implied by your analysis reforms? >> it's a bold tax cut. there's no question. the wall street journal called it a bold tax plan. they called it supply side economics for the working man. we really do get rid of a lot of sacred cows. throw out the old internal revenue code replace it with two rates 10 and 28 percent and we limit it to five deductions children, charities, pension, child care and housing. i always get nervous when we have the five. i got them. that's a simple code focused in on things that are meat and potato issues for americans. not a lot of bells and whistles to get people to do what you want them to do but upholding the basic principal of our economy. on the corporate side we cut the
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corporate rate in half. as charlie will tell you the effective rate of the corporate tax is 18 percent. we cut it to 17 and a half percent. get rid of the exemptions exclusions and have a single rate where the small business guy is bayi paying the same as the big guy. there's no complexity that allows you to orient your business for tax compliance so the little guy and big guy are on the same playing field. we eliminate the corporate tax. it's about making things in america. follow up on one other thing. i want to follow up on it if you want to get the economy growing again you think it's better to have sttargeted stimulus or getting the government out of the way? >> part of the economic plan is to fwoocus on -- everybody is talking about the regulatory environment. we focus on the regulations that really hurt business. as you know they measure ari
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regulations based on the cost of the economy. they have another regulations that cost 100 million than any president in history last year. 2 and a half times the average rate under bush and clinton. about 60 a year, last year president obama did 150 of these shoe type cost regulations. more on the way this year. on day one i will rescind every one of those regulations. some will have to be replaced but a lot of them we can repeal and completely change the attitude of washington toward the business community. >> again we go to charlie gasparino. >> most people agree coming out of 2008 banking collapse we needed something, needed some regulation. but god frank had a lot of unintended consequences. banks aren't lending to people -- >> small banks in particular. >> how do you fix that? >> i am for repealing. i was never for the wall street bailouts. i believe in capitalism.
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i came from southwestern pennsylvania. the mining industry took it to the chin. pittsburgh is a smaller community we went through suffering but it's diversified economy. that is what has to happen allow it to fail and come back up. >> if you are elected president how dowry peel dodd frank? >> i think you make the case to the american people. i think you can repeal dodd frank. >> you think a democrat will support the ending of dodd frank? >> i think they will looking at what the consequences are. many are seeing the effect on small business saying hey, this isn't what we intended. when you have an election which rick santorum elected president will have a majority of the united states senate. no doubt about that. >> you are thinking of all three houses. >> we have the majority. we are only three votes short.
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23 of them are democrats. i know 06 was a bad year. i happened to run that year. democrats ran the table in almost every other state where there was a race. we have an opportunity to get a lot of the seats back. we have a 60 vote majority. we only need to shift 3 or 4 seats and we have an opportunity to be the majority and get democrats to work with us. a lot of democrats come from states like i do. they are not big fans of wall street. they are looking for something reasonable allowing the small business community to get the loans they need. >> regulations, regulations, regulations. right now one of the major ones is killing us, sir, it's healthcare. on wednesday our employees saw the new healthcare plan in 2012. a deductible went from 2,250 dollars to 6,000 dollars. people were mad, tears were visible. medical savings plans that mothers depend on, forget it.
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you say you are going to eliminate obama care but replace it with what sfwh ? >> you meant flexible spending accounts. fsa's. they are a great program. the obama administration put a cap on them. it is all of the way president obama focuses on things. it's always about him micro managing people. he doesn't want people to have flexible spending plans to meet their own healthcare needs. he wants to limit that and shift the responsibility to government to tell you what healthcare plan everybody has to have. that's the fundamental shift we are seeing already taking place as obama care is slowly implemented and eventually we will have no questionable spending we have limited ones but mandated benefits on everybody. you are a 6,000 dollar plan. >> you can't afford it. >> it's right unless you have something that i have worked on and we are here in ohio governor case sick a kasich and i.
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having the premium savings of the higher deductible go to the employee in the accounts to help them feet the ordinary necessary expenses. health savings are growing in popularity. we need to expand them greatly. we need to have transparency in pricing and transparency with respect to the quality of the provider providing this care. in other words, we need to do what you do is to go out and compete, go out and have 300 million consumers in america. that will drive down healthcare costs not government regulations. >> we have to take a break here. when we come back more with former presidential candidate rick santorum. our forum on jobs continues right after this. what's withou?
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>> all right. we are going to continue with former pennsylvania senator rick santorum as our jobs forum continues on. our next question comes from secretary elaine choy. >> president obama recently proposed republicanesque reduction in the corporate tax rate at 28 percent. he also proposed a substantial rate increase for small business owners those making 250,000 dollars and above. what this means is small business owners are paying a hire fax ra -- tax rate than corporations? >> that's why i am for cutting corporate taxes and individual taxes. we cut the corporate rate as minuted to 17 and a half percent individual top rate to a rate that, woulded well for ronald reagan and caused a lot of economic growth in the 1980s. i am excited we have two rates
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and we greatly extend that 10 he is percent rate for people in this country. the idea of everybody paying taxes is a good thing. i think having a two-rate system with a higher rate for those who make more money is a nice way to pals it and simplify the tax code. for me simplification. most people run for political office. i do my own taxes. i did when i was in congress and the senate. if i am going to vote on tax changes i am going to see how it complicates my life. i do my own taxes. that is maybe one of the reasons i am (inaudible). >> you said you were against the bank bailout. would you let citigroup and bank of america. bank of america has a branch in every main street in the united states. would you have let these companies collapse? >> i would have let them go through a bankruptcy process.
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the bankruptcy process may have been a liquidation, may have been reorganization. but again i come from southweste southwestern pennsylvania. we let the steel company go. we let it go. >> i am not degrading their loss but citibank and bank of america have a trillion dollars of deposits that the u.s. government insures. where are we going to find the money? >> we go through the process as you would in any kind of structured bankruptcy. we set the wrong template when we bailed out one bank and not the next, or investment house and not the next. everybody froze because they believed the federal government was going to come in. we made miss step after miss step. in the santorum presidency we wouldn't have bailed out bare stearns and lehman brothers and the market would have responded
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accordingly. you are looking at actions based on actions after the bailout. i believe you have to have a more principled approach to letting capitalism work or not. the idea of bailing out wall street, even though they are important institutions, there would be an opportunity for us to recover. i don't think there's any question it would have been a bigger downturn but we would be on a steep upward incline instead of floundering around. >> no more too big to fail in law. >> we memorialize two big to fail now we have bigger banks with bigger shares which leads to future bailouts and also leads to behavior on the part of the bankers that says you know what, hey, just take your risk because there is always someone behind us if you fail. >> i hate to interrupt you. you are not going to get me on
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this one. dave? >> two years ago my company was 17 days from filing bankruptcy. 17 days. sitting down with our community bank a plan was established handshakes were exchanged because they worked with us. something a big bank would have never ever done. i live to fight another day. today the fed is crushing small banks. what are you going to do to reestablish small banks which are the life blood? >> charlie would tell you the reason the small banks are struggling they said they were going to create a two-tier system of regulation. they really haven't. the big bank regulations are being rained down upon little banks where it wasn't a problem in the first place. you have regulators who are constricting the availability of capital from the little guy because of the regulatory climate they created. that's why the regulatory environment we have has to be
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relooked at. it goes back to who do you trust? do you really trust the federal government to make the decisions to micro manage the availability of credit or do you belief in free markets and let the market work. if it's the failure let it fail. that's the way you improve and get better and investors take that into consideration when they invest in banks and opportunities. that's the marketplace it works best for america not government regulation of that market. >> senator thank you very much. coming up the senator is going to be facing a panel of ohioans. you can post your thoughts at facebook/huckabee show. or you can tweet use the hash bag hubbing forum. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from ♪ that's why right here, in australia, chevron is building
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more than 50 people still hospitalized. the president calling for two-days of national mourning monday and tuesday of this week. no answer on how the trains ended up on the same track. for the latest headlines when you want them go to flush oo welcome back to forum 3. our topic is jobs. he took questions from panel experts now panel of three ohio residents. michael mcearly, tammy mckay and devon largon. the firs one coming from ohio state university senior devon largin. >> honor to get to talk to you. my question is how much you said earlier this week, i am a student in college and your comment about oklahoma being a snob for wanting everyone to go
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to college didn't sit well with my campus. i want to give you a chance to explain that. >> it wasn't about having a chance to go to school. i was going on talking about how the president with healthcare was mandating the kind of healthcare you have. he was talking about the financial services sector, now having this consumer protection bureau which will mandate to a lot of folks particularly sub prime lenders. he went through a bunch of things telling you what was best for you. his quote repeated often was in the media was that everybody should go to college. there is something different than saying people should have the opportunity to go to college. that's fine. all of my political career. i support it. we need a lot of people to go to college and get the education and in some cases the training that's necessary. but the idea that everybody should go to college. it was this attitude that we know better what is best for you, and there are a lot of people in this country who want
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to go to trade school, want to serve our military, want to have the opportunity to start their own business because they have a great idea or they just are anxious to get out there and achieve in society. there's nothing wrong with that. we need to encourage different paths that meet the needs of the people individually. it is this attitude that government knows best for everybody and we are going to set this template which is what i was rejecting as sort of elitist behavior. >> mike your question is next. i am one of the thousands that were laid off from this very facility. now i am a craftsman working 50, 60 hours a week to barely make my house payment. i have neighbors a lot of houses on my blook ack and street that in foreclosure. tell me what you are going to do to end the horrible foreclosure
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crisis? >> the best thing we can do is grow the economy and get better jobs. energy is a big deal. got to reduce energy prices otherwise we restrict the growth we have going in this country. i am somebody who believes building that keystone pipeline opening up lands in alaska and offshore. taking opportunity of the great gift we have in ohio and pennsylvania which is a lot of natural gas production going on here. that's an opportunity to start converting some of ours over to natural gas tick rarely the 18-wheelers and buses and things like that where it is really economical. we are starting to see some of that now. we can see i am not for subsidy in the natural gas industry. i am for providing a very favorable atmosphere for the industry to prosper build filling stations along i 80
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through here and ohio so we can have the network of truck traffic instead of using oil resources. that will be a big part of it. one thing on the housing front that makes it unique in the ranks, i actually put forward a plan that says if you sell your home unlike today if you sell your home you can deduct the losses from the sale of your home. cushion the blow a little bit. if you make a big gain on your house you have to pay capitol gains on it but if you are at a loss you don't. i think that's unfair help stabilize the market maybe people put the house back on the market as a result. tammy mckay i will let you pose a question. >> thank you for coming to wilmington, ohio. in an interview in december you made a comments that led me to believe you might cut social security immediately. my husband and i took social
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security early so that we could maintain our and not lose it. what exactly -- what are you going to make cuts and how? >> social security, the system was there put in effect in 1937 to help people who were unable to work because of advanced age and provide a safety net for them. 90 percent of the people over 75 in america rely upon social security for their living. that is not the case necessarily with people who are 62. most people would agree people who were 62 aren't incapable of working? life expectancy is 80. when 62 was put in as the early retirement age the life expectancy was 71. 70 percent of americans take social security at 62. the vast majority of them are working. should we continue to borrow
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money from china, paying the benefits to those folks in 62 and threatening the benefits for people who have to depend on social security was they aren't able to work any more and they need that benefit. what i have suggested we need to gradually move back the early retirement age. i asked everybody in the audience if you are 61 years old do you mind if we bring it to 62 in one month. so far i don't have that. we are over $100 billion in debt every year in social security. it's going to get worse. we are going to be threatening those people who actually rely on it as opposed to people using it as a supplement. >> senator, thank you very much. we are going to be out of time for this segment. i want to say thank you to senator santorum. see you in a few moments with the closing remarks. special thanks to tammy, mike and defr von all folks in ohio with questions from the real world with living in america
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trying to struggle to keep a job. when we come back we will bring our panel back and have final thoughts on the forum. also have the final summations statements from our candidate. stay with us. living with the pain of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis... could mean living th joint damage. help stop the damage before it stops you with humira. for many adults with moderate to severe ra, humira's proven to helrelieve pain and stop joint damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events can occur, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer, blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections,
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again. they will have one minute each to give us otheir final thought. the order was a random drawing prior to the forum. ron paul declined our repeted invitations to attend our forum in ohio. first up mitt romney. governor? >> thank you, mike, for bringing us here this evening -- or this afternoon. appreciate the fact that o be i this facility. it under scores how many are hurting in part because of the policies of barack obama on almost every dimension he made it harder for the economy to recover and put americans back to work. it is one of the reasons i am back to work. there's a lot of good people running for office. i spent my life in the private sector. i know how jobs come and go. i want to use my experience to get america working again. i want to see rising incomes and see america once again the engine that creates jobs. i want our kids coming out of school knowing they have a good job waiting for them. i want menl and women coming
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home from combat knowing when they get home there's a good job waiting for them. i love this country. i believe the prospects are bright. i believe in restoring the american promise. i am going to do that by creating more jobs with less debt and smaller government. i appreciate your help. thank you. >> up next is former pennsylvania senator rick santorum. >> i am not leaving. >> we have to get the candidates to agree to leave. >> but i want to say what a pleasure it has been to have all of our candidates here. we have to realize how tough it is to rearrange schedules to do something like this. i hope you appreciate the efforts they have made. let me present former senator rick santorum. >> thank you very much governor. great to be here with you. great to be in the state of ohio. as governor romney just said it's important we are in a place like here in wilmington where we have seen the economic devastation that has been caused by a very rapidly and dynamic lee changing economy.
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we need someone out there who understands what it means to have grown-up as i did in a steel houn and lose jobs and understands what it means to have folks that you grew up with being left behind. we see a lot of that going on in this country today. a lot of folks feeling they are out there paddling alone not having the opportunities to be able to rise in society. that's why i put together a bold economic plan wall street journal called it supply side economics for the working man. we have a plan to create opportunities for everybody from the bottom of the ladder on up. someone that is going to fight in washington, d.c. that has a record of reforming government and changing the tax code and fighting for private sector healthcare reform. we have been able to do that. you give us the opportunity we will fight for you and get big things done in washington. >> thank you very much. that was senator rick santorum from pennsylvania. and our final speaker tonight the order was chosen by a random drawing, and to close out the candidate's remarks tonight is former house speaker newt gingrich. >> governor huckabee, thank you
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for hosting this forum. thanks all of you for watching. as you saw from the ohio citizens who spoke here, bad government can lead to real pain. bad government can lead to people being killed through bad rules of engagement. it can lead to our veterans not getting adequate care. bad government can lead to people losing their jobs. having a future that is pretty dim and maybe even losing their homes. we need very profound changes in washington. proverbs teaches us that without vision the people perish. unfortunately barack obama has the wrong vision. we need a campaign that defines for america what a full employment economy is like, what having energy independence is like. what we can do for america to be dramatically better off. thank you and i hope you will consider newt gingrich when you vote. >> thank you, mr. speaker. thanks to all of the candidates. t
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being president is not an easy thing. you put up with a lot including schedules that would break anybody's spirit and will. tonight we have seen their answers with energy and with a deep insight. i hope it has been helpful to you. we are going to bring our panel back after the break. we will talk about what did we hear tonight. did we get the answers that we are looking for that will help the country get back on its feet get jobs going again. we will be right back. stay with us for forum. the jobs forum. forum [ kate ] most women may not be properly absorbing the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. thatfor many, nexium helpsmends relieve heartburn symptoms caused by acid reflux disease. osteoporosis-related bone fractures and low magnesium levels have been seen with nexium. possible side effects include headache, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. other serious stomach conditions may still exist. talk to your doctor about nexium.
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>> welcome back to "forum 3." we have been talking about jobs. moi most important issue in america. we brought our panel back to talk about it. we are going to start with dave
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mcarthur st. louis. you are a small business owner dave, and every day you struggle with a way to keep your current employees hired as well as the thought of adding new people. we had a good discussion with all of these candidates. but i want to ask you, as you listen tonight tell me what your reactions were to the answers that you got to your questions and are you optimistic? >> i am, yes. there wasn't -- in my personal opinion there wasn't a bad candidate here tonight. as an american public we have to address the personal issues and the way we look at them. my business, my family. that's it. that's the american public today. i think if these candidates watch this, i think the thing they should learn is this is what the american public wants to see. we don't need anything on them shooting each other we need change in this country. >> we didn't let them attack each other. it may not be as entertaining, but what we hoped for was substantive answers.
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is there anything specific that one of the candidates said that really spoke to you as a small business operator or just as a person an american? >> a little of both. i felt they were whole hearted answers. what you didn't see tonight, you didn't see poster card replies. we didn't hear the talking points. the answers came back, you, dave, you. you small businessman. you mr. america, you mrs. america, you the veteran. thank you for what you did. but all those things it just seemed to me to come across as a lot warmer. madam secretary, you have been in politics a long long time. >> public service. government. >> maybe i should say you have been in government. but politics leads to government whether we like it or not. one of those indiana teunintend consequences. you asked tough questions of these guys. tell me, did you get the answers you were looking for, did they
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answer your questions or did they give you a talking point. >> no, i agree totally with dave. i think they gave very sincere answers. they clearly care deeply about our country and are troubled by the path we are currently on. we hear the same themes, we are uncompetitive in the international arena with our uncompetitive tax rate. we have an overwhelming burden of regulations, government regulations on our employers. they feel the uncertainty. they feel the burden and they are not creating jobs. thirdly, our national debt, this deficit which is dragging our nation down. all three factors are the reasons why we are not creating jobs. there has to be a course correction. >> did anybody surprise you tonight with an answer they gave? i am not saying you liked it or disliked it but surprised you with the clarity or can dorr of it? >> i was -- dave gave a very touching question about his own
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family in various circumstances and instances and i thought governor mitt romney's response about your son was very powerful. >> i agree. >> he was very responsive and very emotional about it as well. very supportive. >> you could see that. i agree with you. >> charlie, what happened tonight as you listened to these candidates did you go away saying that guy really nailed that answer? >> i hate to be part of the course here. i thought they all did a pretty good job. i thought it was great we got -- part of it is the forum. we got mitt romney to reduce his economic plan from 59 as he pointed out to 7 more coherent co gent details which was really good. i don't think you get that at a debate. i will say this i was most impressed with rick santorum. if you listen to the press so much you could say there are
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gaps on his part where he talks about social issues. i think, because i am not a political strategist. he should talk more about the economy and banking and debt and the stuff that really -- if you don't have a job, you don't really -- that is really at the heart of things. he was impressive. >> you pushed him on the issue of the bailouts. what happened to bank of america and citibank. he did not flinch, he did not try to say, well -- he was clear in saying yeah they could have reearring noised go -- reorgani and it would have been less expensive and difficult long-term. by letting this happen it created a template -- that to me was -- >> that was the money shot. he basically said the one thing that is at the bottom of economics. you cannot create what is called moral hazard. no kwoconsequence to your risk.
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>> my assessment very similar to what you said. i agree governor romney's answer showed a side of him that i had not seen. a deeply personal passionate emotional side that we have not really seen. that is one of the criticism of governor romney. i thought he really blew that question right -- the answer right out of the water. it was a tremendous response. and i thought newt gingrich tonight, he always has thoughtful, clear and very insightful answers. he knows very specifically. >> detail. >> what he wants to do. let me say thanks to all of you. charlie gasparino always great to see you. a pleasure having on my show from time to time and secretary chao it's a delight and honor. dave, you have your own television show one of these days. probably mine. >> i don't think it's going to happen. >> thank you very much for all of you being here. when we come back we are going to join our panel of ohio
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>> we are joined once again by our panel of three ohio residents who have been affected by the economy. michael omacearly he was laid off by dhl.
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lifetime wilmington resident an knee mckay and ohio state university student devon largin. what a pleasure it has been to be in this lovely community. some of the nicest people we have ever seen. michael you are a part of this community. how have you been able to be resilient in the aftermath of such a devastating economic loss? >> well, that's easy. it was by faith, my church and a strong family. i couldn't have gone through what we have gone through after my son's death and the subsequent layoffs here. there's no way i could have made it through this. i know a lot of people that are in a mess because they can't handle it. i put my faith in god that i can every day. >> i am going to ask each of you a question. did any of the candidates tonight cause you to say, i think i could support that guy? mike i will start with you and we will go down the line.
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any of them? >> governor romney made a good case for me. he seemed very passionate about the soldiers which is always at the forefront of my mind. i am still a little undecided, but as a common man from a small town i have a lot of food for thought from this virtually nobody else would be able to get. >> you have got to made up your mind by tuesday. ohio votes on super tuesday. tell me what your reaction was to the comments of the candidates did they answer your questions and are you closer to a decision on who you would support? >> i think they were all very passionate about their answers. and they were very well informed as far as i was concerned. having them sit directly with me i appreciate the opportunity. i think the only question that was partially unanswered was governor romney. when i asked him specifically about how with more jobs and
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less smaller government how can that happen with dividing government. he didn't quite answer the other part of it. i welcome them all to wilmington ohio with all my heart. >> if you had to vote today would you make that decision and tell us? >> i am still undecided. >> like michael you only have a couple of days. i am going to probably follow up and ask you. devon it's all on your shoulders now. everybody is dodging the question. tell me who impressed you tonight and why and have they convinced you to vote for them? >> well i do think my vote will come down to the final day. as an independent, as a registered independent i am lucky to vote in this caucus. what i wanted to see from the candidates they are going to prove to me if they are elected president washington is a joint effort that they are going to be willing to work with, they are going to be nonpartisan they are going to work with other parties. that's what i want to see.
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as a 20-year-old i am very young this is my first presidential election i will have a vote in. all i have ever been accustomed to politically is bickering. i would like to see someone who would cross bunked dres and work with everyun. somebody who is not just worried about winning seats back for their party but someone who is willing to try to make it work for everyone. it's a little idealist but that's what i would love to see. >> all of you come in here leave undecided but at least impressed that you have three good choices out of the candidates that you have seen and again we say ron paul was invited but did not choose to come. i think that's important. i want to say thanks to mike, tammy and devin. thanks to newt gingrich, mitt romney and rick santorum for taking part in our forum tonight. stay tuned to fox news on super tuesday march the 6th when they are holding their gop primaries or caucus